“No.”

Bummer. But let’s dig into the “why”.

First, some groundwork: hero trees compete with each other. So the answer compares the hero trees.

This is basically some sort of Farseer versus Stormbringer.

Ancestors cast their own version of:

  • Lava Burst, whenever the player casts a single target spell.
  • Chain Lightning (hitting 1-3 targets), whenever the player casts an aoe spell.
  • Elemental Blast, when they despawn.

Which stats actually affect our Ancestor casts?

What Affects Ancestors
Crititcal strike rating - Lava Burst ❌
Crititcal strike rating - Chain Ligthning ✅
Crititcal strike rating - Elemental Blast ✅
Haste ❌*
Mastery - damage amp ✅
Mastery - Overloads ❌
Versatility ✅

*Haste doesn’t affect their casts, except for hard threshholds at which the player can fit a whole additional cast into their uptime which also needs to hit the target within said uptime.

So based on the above, do stats scale?

Stat Full scaling?
Crititcal strike rating ❌
Haste ❌
Mastery ❌
Versatility ✅

Stormbringer scales with all stats.

Oof.

But what about talents?

Legend:

  • ✅ … affected by
  • ❌ … not affected by
  • - … both are affected equally by
Talent Farseer Stormbringer
Fire and Ice - -
Nature’s Fury ❌ ✅
Enhanced Imbues ❌ ✅
Totemic Surge - -
Totemic Recall - -
Nature’s Swiftness ✅ ✅
Call of the Elements - -
Elemental Fury ❌ ✅
Fire Elemental - -
Storm Elemental ✅ ✅
Flash of Lightning ❌ ✅
Aftershock ❌ ✅
Surge of Power ❌ ✅
Echo of the Elements - -
Icefury - -
Stormkeeper ❌ ✅*
Master of the Elements ❌ ✅
Fusion of Elements - -
Storm Frenzy ✅ ✅
Swelling Maelstrom - -
Primordial Fury ❌ ✅
Fury of the Storms - -
Elemental Unity ❌ ✅
Flux Melting - -
Lightning Conduit ❌ ✅
Power of the Maelstrom ❌ ✅
Improved Flametongue Weapon - -
Everlasting Elements - -
Thunderstrike Ward - -
Echo Chamber ❌ ✅
Searing Flames ❌ ✅
Earthen Rage - -
Flames of the Cauldron - -
Elemental Equilibrium ❌ ✅
Eye of the Storm - -
Ascendance ❌ ✅
Echo of the Elementals - -
Primordial Wave - -
Lightning Rod ❌ ✅
Mountains Will Fall - -
First Ascendant ❌ ✅
Preeminence ✅ ✅
Erupting Lava - -
Magma Chamber - -
Splintered Elements ✅ ✅
Charged Conduit ❌ ✅
Echoes of Great Sundering - -
Deeply Rooted Elements ❌ ✅
Primal Elementalist - -
Liquid Magma Totem - -

*Arc Discharge Bug. Wait for the Secret Techs blogpost…

Well. I guess Stormbringer wins the scaling battle hands down. This is noticeable downside for the whole Farseer hero tree.

Also finally: Routine Communication dislikes spending Maelstrom.

So yeah…do our Ancestors scale? They sure do. But worse than Stormbringer and they clearly dislike quite a few talents.

Yours sincerely,
Bloodmallet